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->->->-> DP connected at: Sun Feb  7 1999 19:01:15
DP>>Hello is anyone from group #6 in the chat room
DP>>How about Mr. Lucas, are you signed on
DP>>Oh well! Guess I'll start alone 
->->->-> DP_#2 connected at: Sun Feb  7 1999 19:53:48
<-<-<-<- DP disconnected at: Sun Feb  7 1999 19:53:49
DP_#2>>Rabkin start with comparing the left hand to the
        right. stating that this is in our philosophic tradition impossible
        for us to acheive.
DP_#2>>He is using our ideas of reality to compare a
        work of fiction that the author specifically said to accept as
        fiction.
DP_#2>>He further starts comparing the work to the
        religous doctrine of the Tao. Although this doctrine is a way of life
        for these people, it to is a ficticous arraingement that they choose
        to follow.
DP_#2>>What is unique in my opinion is that fiction,
        even extreme fiction has brought about inventions that at one time
        existed in the minds of the fiction writes.
DP_#2>> The civilizations of the past would never have
        believed that we could fly, no-less go to the moon and the stars. Yet
        today it is an accepted reality!
DP_#2>>I have no disagreement to what Rabkin states,
        other than this goes beyond what the author stated of her novel and
        that the posibility exist that perhaps we are not alone in the
        universe.
DP_#2>>If le Guins novel does no more than to suggest
        that we need to open our minds and realize that the way we exist in
        our world might be as strange to beings from a far off world as we
        conceive the possibility of them to be.
DP_#2>>when something is unknown to us, we fear its
        existance. The first use of explosives to a civilization unformilar
        to it would probably create a tale of horror about a creature
        dropping fire balls from the sky that swallowed up anything in its
        path.
DP_#2>>Le Guins story relates very much to the episodes
        from star-trek. wounder if they were influenced by Le Guin or was she
        influenced by the original series. which ever the case the characters
        that she discribes and the mind scape issue was used in the original
        series by the Volcans and the sexual ambiguity of a being was also
        seen in the series.
DP_#2>>True what Le Guin tells is fiction, but perhaps
        one day we come in contact with similar beings.
DP_#2>>If your out there Mr. Lucas I just got e-mail
        from the others in the group and they couldn't get onto the cite most
        likely due to over use of the online terminals. we are going to try
        again Monday-nite at 10:30 p.m.

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