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Writing About Literature: The WWW in the Literature Classroom
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->->->-> CC connected at: Mon Feb 8 1999 22:04:36
->->->-> SH connected at: Mon Feb 8 1999 22:07:19
CC>>Hi SH
SH>>Hello CC sorry it took me so long. I got off
work late and it took me so long to get into webct
CC>>How are ya?
SH>>tired..
CC>>thats okay...just waiting for JF too
CC>>Sorry to hear that
CC>>I am tired too..I am catching a coldagain
SH>> How are You? So what is it that we are suppose to
do exactly?
SH>>Me too.
CC>>talk about the anthology
CC>>Can you hold on a sec?
SH>>Yes. Call me stupid but what is that?
->->->-> JF connected at: Mon Feb 8 1999 22:11:06
CC>>I'm back
CC>>Its the thing that we copied
SH>> Hello JF.
CC>>Hi Jessica
CC>>Finally ...we are all here!
JF>>hi, sorry so late, i couldn't remember my
password/login combo!
SH>>You mean we are just suppose to talk about what we
thought about the story?
JF>>yes and what did you think about the essay?
CC>>thats okay...I did the same thing
SH>>I will have to warn you now, I type really slow.
CC>>well lets see...
SH>>I thought that the person that wrote the essay was
just as weird as the person that the story.
CC>>the essay was pretty good it explainned most of the
meaning of the book
JF>>i thought the essay was pretty good too
CC>>hey...is our essay due tomorrow?
SH>>Yeah
CC>>shoot!
CC>>Arent we allowed one late paper in his class?
SH>>I found it more interesting than the book. Does she
really thing that Adam was half and half?
JF>>although the author only focuses on abiguity, is there
more to the story
SH>>Nope
CC>>darn!
SH>>what is abiguity?
CC>>I was gonna ask the same thing
JF>>sorry, not ambiguity, androgony
CC>>hehe
SH>>Don't feel bad I did not know what that word meant
either. Thank god for webster.
JF>>what do you mean by adam half and half
SH>>what is kemmer?
SH>>Half man, half woman
JF>>kemmer is the state when their bodies are either man
or woman and they mate
JF>>kemmering is mating
CC>>I think that she contrdicts herself with the meaning
of androgony
JF>>why?
SH>>I thougt so. I don't even want to think about two
men/women mating. eh
CC>>cause...she says its neither man nor women...like it
doesnt have anything to do with either....
CC>>than she sais it is both of them combined...like
opposites
CC>>"interaction of opposites"
SH>>She said that androgny was the blending in which
human characteristics of male and female are not assigned.
JF>>it is neither man nor woman because it's the combo of
both
SH>>the article said that we should reject all forms of
sexual polorization or identity and be what we want to be.
CC>>yeah...but if she doesnt thin that there should be
either at all like the idea of men and/or women should not exist
..how could there be an idea of both of it combined
JF>>what does "ambiguous equality must exist if
unification is to occur" mean?
SH>>beats me
SH>>I think that she is saying that you should be
allowed to choose at any given time waht you want to be
CC>>I guess that means that in order to unify they must
be equal ..(balance out)
JF>>if you have 2 plants and grow them togeather you have
a new hybred - a new plant. If you combine man and woman you have a
new "person"
SH>>I also think that she feels that we have the
qualities of both in us. If a woman is seen as aggressive they might
think that she is acting as a man
JF>>i also agree with you shalonda
SH>>Not in this story. If you choose to have two men
you have a child
CC>>=)
JF>>what?
CC>>So how are you huys doing on the papers?
JF>>what do you think about the two guys falling in love?
CC>>gals..i meant..typo
JF>>paper is coming along
JF>>
SH>>What do you think when she says that we shaould
develop a mature sexuality in which an open system of all
possibilities are accepted
SH>>I have only just begun. I have been studying for a
biology exam
JF>>i think she means we should see the person inside and
not subjugate sex on a person
JF>>who do you have for bio?
CC>>what about her view of the Bible..?
SH>>So in other words if we see a man dressing as a
woman we should not judge him and say he is a freak. We should look
at him and say that he wants and feels that he is a she so he is?
SH>>Eilers. Are you taking it too?
SH>>Cathy what page is that on?
SH>>Never mind
CC>>end of 92
->->->-> JF_#2 connected at: Mon Feb 8 1999 22:31:33
JF_#2>>hey i lost my connection, now i'm back
JF_#2>>what did i miss?
JF_#2>>ya'll still there?
JF_#2>>say something
SH>>Seeing that I am a christian I do not agree that god
is androgynous but I do believe that he created man in his own
image. And as far as adam being a hermaphordite i don't think so
CC>>I agree
JF_#2>>some christian believe that god is androgynous
SH>>In the bible they teach us that god made eve by
taking one of adams ribs. Now if that happened how did he mate with
himself.
JF_#2>>different versions of the bible exist
SH>>Yeah I see that.
SH>>Every body is entitled to their own belief.
JF_#2>>Brown get's a little touchy relating this stuff to
the bible
CC>>I think that Wen the bible says "man"...it soesnt
refer to actually only men but...Man as in Mankind...men oer
women..human beings
JF_#2>>i agree with mankind
CC>>sorry about the typing
JF_#2>>it's ok
<-<-<-<- JF disconnected at: Mon Feb 8 1999 22:36:53
SH>>in church they teach you that the word woman means
man with a womb
JF_#2>>brown says that we can not be fully human util we
can transcend being female or male
SH>>what do you think about the picture of god with man
and woman parts and how man was punished and his female parts were
torn off and in order to feel complete he has to find his other half
which is his mate?
SH>>what do you mean by transcend?
JF_#2>>to go beyond
JF_#2>>to see past
SH>>I don't mean to get of the subject but Jessica are
you taking bio?
JF_#2>>yes
SH>>How can we when we are taught that there is an
obvious difference from childhood?
JF_#2>>I feel that society subjugates us as humans and
places us from childbirth into female or male roles
SH>>We are taught that girls act this way and boys act
that way. and if we do other wise that is wrong or you are being
rebellious
JF_#2>>i agree
CC>>they say that subject gender starts wheb you are born
JF_#2>>i think leguin is trying to point this out to us
CC>>we learned that in my Human sexual behavior course
SH>>I agree. It has to do with the time in which you
are raised. Look at how open people are now compared to 20 yrs ago
regarding sexual preference
JF_#2>>how will they be in 20 years from now?
JF_#2>>are we heading more towards androgyny?
CC>>our teacher taught us that re are pushed into
roles...such as babies in the hospital....girls in pink boys in blue
SH>>It looks that way . but i don't think that it will
be in 20 yrs. I think that it will be later than that.
JF_#2>>i agree
CC>>well you guys ..I think our time is up..I am sooo
tired.....I guesss I dont have a lot to say today cause this is my
third time on this web ct and I'm sorta getting sick of it
JF_#2>>ok , let's say goodnight
SH>>do you agree that we are both male and female just
because we may have share some of thier characteristics?
CC>>sorry ..I guess I soucd a little mean...
CC>>I am just a little cranky cause I'm soo tired
SH>>No cathy i understand. Jessica are you ready for
test?
JF_#2>>which bio class are you in
SH>>so what is it exactly that we are suppose to write
about
SH>>1
SH>>and you
CC>>Do you think we will have quiz tomorrow.for this
class...I hope not
JF_#2>>i'm in bio 2 with wonderlin
SH>>I wouldn't put it pass him
SH>>is that a good teacher?
JF_#2>>i hope there's no quiz
CC>>I hope I didnt give him ideas by him reading this
tomorrow
SH>>My teacher is very vage in class. Please forgive my
spelling
CC>>=)
CC>>...well good night you guys...gotta work on my paper
JF_#2>>to find out what to what to write about look at
assignment 4 on the syllabus
JF_#2>>goodnight cathy
SH>>good night guys. see ya tom.
JF_#2>>goodbye
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